{"id":3436,"date":"2018-07-02T09:13:11","date_gmt":"2018-07-02T14:13:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/?page_id=3436"},"modified":"2018-08-14T04:38:18","modified_gmt":"2018-08-14T09:38:18","slug":"stara-lipa-21-dolnji-tisljerovi","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/stara-lipa\/the-people\/stara-lipa-21-dolnji-tisljerovi\/","title":{"rendered":"Stara Lipa 21 (Dolnji Ti\u0161ljerovi)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>While every house in Slovenia has a civic address, many houses also carry a household name. These names are how other people typically referred to that family. This house has the name of Dolnji Ti\u0161ljerovi. This name has two meanings.\u00a0 The Dolnji is meant to differentiate this family from the family of <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/stara-lipa\/the-people\/stara-lipa-16-gornji-tisljerovi\/\">Stara Lipa 16<\/a>, the <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/stara-lipa\/the-people\/stara-lipa-16-gornji-tisljerovi\/\">Gornji Ti\u0161ljerovi<\/a>.\u00a0 Also, the ti\u0161ljer is likely reference to the occupation of the patriarch at some point.<\/p>\n<p>This house is the first of six documented houses in church documents to be considered a \u201cnew\u201d house in <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/stara-lipa\/\">Stara Lipa<\/a>. This family of this house originally finds its roots at <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/stara-lipa\/the-people\/stara-lipa-10-cajnarovi\/\">Stara Lipa 10<\/a>. The best estimate for the construction of these series of houses is after 1840.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>The oldest record we have found to date for a person from this house is for Nikolaj Rogina (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/stara-lipa\/the-people\/stara-lipa-10-cajnarovi\/\">Cajnarov<\/a>) b. 1816. He married Marija Fortun (Obrh 6) b. 1817. Together they had 5 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>1A. Nikolaj Rogina b. 1841, m. 1869 to Ana Rogina (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/stara-lipa\/the-people\/stara-lipa-2-roginovi-halekovi\/\">Roginova<\/a>) &#8212; they lived at Gornji Suhor 11.<\/p>\n<p>1B. Marija Rogina b. 1845, m. 1875 to Janez Klobu\u010dar (\u0160ipek 8) &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>1C. Ana Rogina b. 1852. At this time, it is unknown what happened to her afterwards.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Janez Klobu\u010dar and his wife Marija Rogina [1B] had 1 child:<\/p>\n<p>2A. Ana Klobu\u010dar b. 1874. At this time, it is unknown what happened to her afterwards.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>At this point, the original Rogina lineage ends at this house. Johan Rogina (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/stara-lipa\/the-people\/stara-lipa-16-gornji-tisljerovi\/\">Gornji Ti\u0161ljerov<\/a>) moved in with his wife Danijela Balkovec (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/hrast-pri-vinici\/the-people\/hrast-pri-vinici-13-tundekovi\/\">Tundekova<\/a> from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/hrast-pri-vinici\/\">Hrast<\/a>). It is at this point when the house name would have been known as the Dolnji Ti\u0161ljerovi.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Johan Rogina and his wife Danijela Balkovec had 12 children.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>While every house in Slovenia has a civic address, many houses also carry a household name. These names are how other people typically referred to that family. 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