{"id":3007,"date":"2017-10-25T05:17:36","date_gmt":"2017-10-25T10:17:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/?page_id=3007"},"modified":"2017-10-25T05:18:31","modified_gmt":"2017-10-25T10:18:31","slug":"vukovci-18-knezovi-belcevi","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/vukovci\/the-people\/vukovci-18-knezovi-belcevi\/","title":{"rendered":"Vukovci 18 (Knezovi\/Bel\u010devi)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>While every house in Slovenia has a civic address, many houses also carry a household name. These names are how other people typically referred to that family. This house originally had the name of Knezovi. It is plausible that the inhabitants of this house were originally descendants of a local duke. The name was later changed to Bel\u010devi. At this time, the exact origin of this name is unknown to us.<\/p>\n<p>Through the period of our studies, we have found three houses which originally carried the Flajnik surname in <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/vukovci\/\">Vukovci<\/a>. This is the third of the three houses (in order of house address). The Flajnik surname is only originally found in <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/hrast-pri-vinici\/\">Hrast<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/perudina\/\">Perudina<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/vukovci\/\">Vukovci<\/a>.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>The oldest records we have found to date for a person from this house is for several siblings, including:<\/p>\n<p>1A. Unknown Flajnik m. to Katarina \u017dagar &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>1B. Johan Flajnik b. 1770, m. to Ana Toma\u017ei\u010d &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Unknown Flajnik [1A] and his wife Katarina \u017dagar had at least 2 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>2A. Ana Flajnik b. 1816, m. ca. 1835 to Matija Kobe (Pa\u010dov from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/otok\/\">Otok<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>2B. Katarina Flajnik b. 1822. At this time, it is unknown what happened to her afterwards.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Johan Flajnik [1B] and his wife Ana Toma\u017ei\u010d had at least 1 child, including:<\/p>\n<p>2C. Barbara Flajnik b. 1808, m. ca. 1824 to Johan Kobe &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Although there is nothing confirming any relation to the Flajnik family yet, another family was also living here at this time. Based on some notation, before marrying Katarina Prok\u0161elj, Nikolaj Brozovi\u010d may have been married to a Katarina Flajnik.<\/p>\n<p>Nikolaj Brozovi\u010d and his wife Katarina Prok\u0161elj had at least 3 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>2D. Ana Brozovi\u010d b. 1806, died at the age of 29. At this time, it is unknown if she was ever married or had children.<\/p>\n<p>2E. Barbara Brozovi\u010d b. 1808, died at the age of 28. At this time, it is unknown if she was ever married or had children.<\/p>\n<p>2F. Marija Brozovi\u010d b. 1820, m. ca. 1848 to \u0160tefan Mlakar &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Johan Kobe and his wife Barbara Flajnik [2C] had 7 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>3A. Barbara Kobe b. 1825, m. 1846. At this time, it is unknown what happened to her afterwards.<\/p>\n<p>3B. Johan Kobe b. 1829, m. ca. 1854 to Katarina Ribi\u010d (Zdihova 25) &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>3C. Katarina Kobe b. 1838, m. 1863 to Nikolaj Maljevac (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/vukovci\/the-people\/vukovci-10-parici\/\">Pari\u010dev<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>3D. Marija Kobe b. 1842, m. 1873 to Jurij Sim\u010di\u010d (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/vukovci\/the-people\/vukovci-14-ravidicevi\/\">Ravidi\u010dev<\/a>) &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>3E. Matija Kobe b. 1845, died at the age of 28. At this time, it is unknown if he was ever married or had children.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>\u0160tefan Mlakar and his wife Marija Brozovi\u010d [2F] had 1 child:<\/p>\n<p>3F. Ana Mlakar b. 1849. At this time, it is unknown what happened to her afterwards.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Johan Kobe [3B] and his wife Katarina Ribi\u010d had 12 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>4A. Johan Kobe b. 1855, m. 1880 to Helena Mravinec (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/hrast-pri-vinici\/the-people\/hrast-pri-vinici-20\/\">Hrast 20<\/a>) &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>4B. Ana Kobe b. 1867, m. 1887 to Matija \u0160utej (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/kovacji-grad\/the-people\/kovacji-grad-6\/\">Kova\u010dji Grad 6<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>4C. Katarina Kobe b. 1871, m. 1898 in McKeesport, Pennsylvania to Gregor \u0160terbenac (Osojnik 42) &#8212; they lived at Vukovci 17.<\/p>\n<p>4D. Matija Kobe b. 1874. At this time, it is unknown what happened to him afterwards.<\/p>\n<p>4E. Franc Kobe b. 1879, m. 1906 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to Juliana Pupi\u010d (Rim 3) &#8212; they lived at Vukovci 29.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Jurij Sim\u010di\u010d and his wife Marija Kobe [3D] had 7 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>4F. Marija Sim\u010di\u010d b. 1866, had 1 illegitimate child while living at <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/vukovci\/the-people\/vukovci-15-priblanovi\/\">Vukovci 15<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>4G. Jurij Sim\u010di\u010d b. 1873. At this time, it is unknown what happened to him afterwards.<\/p>\n<p>At this point, Jurij Sim\u010di\u010d moved with his family to the newly vacated <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/vukovci\/the-people\/vukovci-15-priblanovi\/\">Vukovci 15<\/a>.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Johan Kobe [4A] and his wife Helena Mravinec had 12 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>5A. Marija Kobe b. 1883, m. 1902 to a man from Liplje 9.<\/p>\n<p>5B. Johan Kobe b. 1885, m. 1920 to Ana Moravec (Travnikarova from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/vinica\/\">Vinica<\/a>) &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>5C. Johana Kobe b. 1886, m. in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to Jo\u017ee Jur\u0161ini\u010d (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/perudina\/the-people\/perudina-7-matasovi\/\">Mata\u0161ov<\/a> from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/perudina\/\">Perudina<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>5D. Silvester Kobe b. 1893. At this time, it is unknown what happened to him afterwards.<\/p>\n<p>5E. Helena Kobe b. 1900, m. 1922 to Lojze Gor\u0161e (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/hrast-pri-vinici\/the-people\/hrast-pri-vinici-33-zapojcevi\/\">Zapoj\u010dev<\/a> from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/hrast-pri-vinici\/\">Hrast<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>5F. Katarina Kobe b. 1904, m. 1924, to a man from Pribanjci 39.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Johan Kobe [5B] and his wife Ana Moravec had 5\u00a0 children.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>While every house in Slovenia has a civic address, many houses also carry a household name. These names are how other people typically referred to that family. 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