{"id":2829,"date":"2017-06-23T04:13:19","date_gmt":"2017-06-23T09:13:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/?page_id=2829"},"modified":"2018-04-07T10:55:17","modified_gmt":"2018-04-07T15:55:17","slug":"secje-selo-15-cernovi-gornji-bertovi","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/secje-selo\/the-people\/secje-selo-15-cernovi-gornji-bertovi\/","title":{"rendered":"Se\u010dje Selo 15 (\u010cernovi\/Gornji Bertovi)"},"content":{"rendered":"

While every house in Slovenia has a civic address, many houses also carry a household name. These names are how other people typically referred to that family. This house originally carried the name of \u010cernovi. At this time, it is unknown what the origin of this name is. This family shares their household name with the family at Se\u010dje Selo 7<\/a>. This is likely due to a common ancestry between the two families. The household name was later changed to Gornji Bertovi.<\/p>\n

Through the period of our studies, we have found five distinct houses which originally carried the Mravinec surname in Se\u010dje Selo<\/a>. This is the fifth of the five houses (in order of house address). The Mravinec surname is also commonly found in Perudina<\/a>.<\/p>\n

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The oldest record we have found to date for a person from this house is for Jurij Mravinec b. 1784. He married Katarina Kambi\u010d b. 1788. Together, they had at least 6 children, including:<\/p>\n

1A. Nikolaj Mravinec b. 1808, m. 1832 to Marija Prok\u0161elj (U\u010dakovci<\/a>) — they remained at this house.<\/p>\n

1B. Marija Mravinec b. 1811. At this time, it is unknown what happened to her afterwards.<\/p>\n

1C. Jurij Mravinec b. 1814, m. ca. 1842 to Ana Per\u0161eti\u010d (Vinica 16) — they remained at this house.<\/p>\n

1D. Miha Mravinec b. 1819, m. ca. 1855 to Barbara Vrane\u0161i\u010d (Fratrovci) — they remained at this house.<\/p>\n

1E. Ana Mravinec b.1822, m. 1842 to Jurij Tomec (Lovre\u010dov<\/a> from Podklanec<\/a>).<\/p>\n

1F. Johan Mravinec b.1825. At this time, it is unknown what happened to him afterwards.<\/p>\n

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Nikolaj Mravinec [1A] and his wife Marija Prok\u0161elj had 3 children:<\/p>\n

2A. Marija Mravinec b. 1841. At this time, it is unknown what happened to her afterwards.<\/p>\n

2B. Jo\u017eefa Mravinec b. 1845, m. ca. 1872 to Matija Vlahovi\u010d (Rameli\u010dov from Vinica<\/a>).<\/p>\n

2C. Helena Mravinec b. 1847. At this time, it is unknown what happened to her afterwards.<\/p>\n

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Jurij Mravinec [1C] and his wife Ana Per\u0161eti\u010d had 5 children:<\/p>\n

2D. Marija Mravinec b. 1842, m. 1861 to a man from Pribanjci 33.<\/p>\n

2E. Jurij Mravinec b. 1845, m. 1869 to Marija \u017dalec (\u017dal\u010deva<\/a> from Zilje<\/a>) — they remained at this house.<\/p>\n

2F. Jo\u017ee Mravinec b. 1850. At this time, it is unknown what happened to him afterwards.<\/p>\n

2G. Ana Mravinec b. 1853. At this time, it is unknown what happened to her afterwards.<\/p>\n

2H. Barbara Mravinec b. 1857, m. 1879 to Matija Moravec (Bahori\u010dev<\/a>).<\/p>\n

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Miha Mravinec [1D] and his wife Barbara Vrane\u0161i\u010d had 2 children which died in infancy or early childhood.<\/p>\n

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Jurij Mravinec [2E] and his wife Marija \u017dalec had 12 children, including:<\/p>\n

3A. Matija Mravinec b. 1876, m. 1902 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to Ana Moravec (Morav\u010deva<\/a> from Zilje<\/a>) — they returned to live at this house.<\/p>\n

3B. Barbara Mravinec b. 1881, m. 1901 to Matija Medo\u0161 (Drenovec 15).<\/p>\n

3C. Johan Mravinec b. 1891, m. 1911 to Barbara \u0160pehar (Vrane\u0161i\u010deva from Gornji Suhor<\/a>) — they remained at this house.<\/p>\n

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Matija Mravinec [3A] and his wife Ana Moravec had 1 child which died in infancy.<\/p>\n

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Matija Mravinec [3A] m. 1904 to his second wife Ana \u0160pehar (Vrane\u0161i\u010deva from Gornji Suhor<\/a>). Together they had 9 children, including:<\/p>\n

4A. Ana Mravinec b. 1910, m. 1927 to Miha Spahi\u010d (Spahi\u010di 16) — they lived at Podklanec 33<\/a>.<\/p>\n

4B. Marija Mravinec b. 1911, m. 1931 to Jurij Moravec (Dolnji Morav\u010dev<\/a> from Podklanec<\/a>) — they lived at Podklanec 42<\/a>.<\/p>\n

4C. Miha Mravinec b. 1913. At this time, it is unknown what happened to him afterwards.<\/p>\n

4D. Vincent Mravinec b. 1915, m. 1952 to a woman from Hrast 21<\/a>.<\/p>\n

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Johan Mravinec [3C] and his wife Barbara \u0160pehar had 8 children, including:<\/p>\n

4E. Jo\u017eef Mravinec b. 1914, m. 1950 to Barbara Jur\u0161ini\u010d (Kova\u010deva<\/a> from Perudina<\/a>) — they lived at Se\u010dje Selo 7<\/a>.<\/p>\n

4F. Franca Mravinec b. 1916, m. 1955 to Franc \u0160pehar (\u0160peharov<\/a> from Hrast<\/a>).<\/p>\n

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