{"id":2758,"date":"2017-05-05T05:12:39","date_gmt":"2017-05-05T10:12:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/?page_id=2758"},"modified":"2017-05-05T05:15:14","modified_gmt":"2017-05-05T10:15:14","slug":"valeti-19-dolnji-valeci-cimermani","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/valeti\/the-people\/valeti-19-dolnji-valeci-cimermani\/","title":{"rendered":"Valeti 19 (Dolnji Vale\u010di\/Cimermani)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>While every house in Slovenia has a civic address, many houses also carry a household name. These names are how other people typically referred to that family. This house carries the name of Dolnji Valeti. This name likely exists to differentiate this family from that of the family at Valeti 10, the Gornji Vale\u010di. The name later changed to the Cimermani which translates from the German Cimer-man which means room man or roommate. This may suggest that the homestead was sold and the family living there weren&#8217;t the proper owners.<\/p>\n<p>Through the period of our studies, we have found three distinct houses which originally carried the Ivanu\u0161i\u010d surname in <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/valeti\/\">Valeti<\/a>. This is the third of the three houses (in order of house address).<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>The oldest record we have found to date for a person from this house is for the wife of the patriarch Suzana b. 1793. With her husband, she had at least 3 children, including::<\/p>\n<p>1A. Nikolaj Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1828, m. ca. 1846 to Helena Stare\u0161ini\u010d (Brdo 32) &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>1B. Jo\u017ee Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1832, died at the age of 31. At this time, it is unknown if he was ever married or had children.<\/p>\n<p>1C. Janko Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1835, died at the age of 50. At this time, it is unknown if he was ever married or had children.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Nikolaj Ivanu\u0161i\u010d [1A] and his wife Helena Stare\u0161ini\u010d had 9 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>2A. Marija Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1847, m. 1865 to Nikolaj \u0160pi\u0161i\u010d (\u0160pi\u0161i\u010dev from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/jakovini\/\">Jakovini<\/a>) &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>2B. Ana Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1851, m. 1871 to Peter Radovi\u010d (Radovi\u010dev from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/brdo\/\">Brdo<\/a>)<sup>1<\/sup>.<\/p>\n<p>2C. Jurij Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1857, m. 1881 to Magdalena Basar (Prili\u0161\u010de 12) &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>2D. Magdalena Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1859, m. a man from Trieste, Italy.<\/p>\n<p>2E. Helena Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1865, m. 1887 to Jo\u017ee Radovi\u010d (Radovi\u010dev from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/brdo\/\">Brdo<\/a>)<sup>1<\/sup>.<\/p>\n<p>2F. Katarina Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1870. At this time, it is unknown what happened to her afterwards.<\/p>\n<p><sup>1. <em>At this time it is unknown how Jo\u017ee Radovi\u010d and Peter Radovi\u010d are related.<\/em><\/sup><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Nikolaj \u0160pi\u0161i\u010d and his wife Marija Ivanu\u0161i\u010d [2A] had 1 child:<\/p>\n<p>3A. Jo\u017ee \u0160pi\u0161i\u010d b. 1866, died at the age of 43 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. At this time, it is unknown if he was ever married or had children.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Marija Ivanu\u0161i\u010d [2A] m. 1872 to her second husband Ivan Radovi\u010d (Radovi\u010dev from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/brdo\/\">Brdo<\/a>). Together they had 6 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>3B. Ana Radovi\u010d b. 1872, m. 1898 to Ivan Pavlakovi\u010d (Jakovinski from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/jakovini\/\">Jakovini<\/a>) &#8212; they lived at Kroci 16.<\/p>\n<p>3C. Franc Radovi\u010d b. 1875, m. 1904 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania to Marija \u0160pi\u0161i\u010d (Majkov from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/jakovini\/\">Jakovini<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>3D. Ivan Radovi\u010d b. 1878. At this time, it is unknown what happened to him afterwards.<\/p>\n<p>3E. Marija Radovi\u010d b. 1880, m. 1903 to Nikolaj Krotec (Kolarov from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/kroci\/\">Kroci<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Jurij Ivanu\u0161i\u010d [2C] and his wife Magdalena Basar had 9 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>3F. Magdalena Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1884, m. 1906 to a man from Vukova Gorica 50.<\/p>\n<p>3G. Franca Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1886, m. 1907 to Jo\u017ee Radovi\u010d (Rahojkin from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/brdo\/\">Brdo<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>3H. Jurij Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1889, m. 1909 to Marija \u010cadoni\u010d (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/balkovci\/the-people\/balkovci-1-birici\/\">Biri\u010deva<\/a> from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/balkovci\/\">Balkovci<\/a>) &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>3I. Ana Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1891. At this time, it is unknown what happened to her afterwards.<\/p>\n<p>3J. Nikolaj Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1893. At this time, it is unknown what happened to him afterwards.<\/p>\n<p>3K. Marija Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1896, m. 1920 to a man from Ku\u010device 47.<\/p>\n<p>3L. Katarina Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1899, m. 1921 to Franc Vidina (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/vidine\/the-people\/vidine-13-jurkini\/\">Jurkin<\/a> from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/vidine\/\">Vidine<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>3M. Helena Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1901, m. 1926 to Janko \u017duni\u010d (Milankin from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zunici\/\">\u017duni\u010di<\/a>) &#8212; they lived at Brdo 35.<\/p>\n<p>3N. Barbara Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1903, m. 1922 to Janez \u017duni\u010d (Vukova Gorica).<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Jurij\u00a0 Ivanu\u0161i\u010d [3H] and his wife Marija \u010cadoni\u010d had 1 child:<\/p>\n<p>4A. Jo\u017ee Ivanu\u0161i\u010d b. 1909, m. 1930 to Barbara \u010cadoni\u010d (R\u017eeni\u010dina from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/kroci\/\">Kroci<\/a>) &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Jo\u017ee Ivanu\u0161i\u010d [4A] and his wife Barbara \u010cadoni\u010d had 3 children.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>While every house in Slovenia has a civic address, many houses also carry a household name. These names are how other people typically referred to that family. 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