{"id":221,"date":"2012-11-07T08:02:30","date_gmt":"2012-11-07T08:02:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/blogs\/history\/?page_id=221"},"modified":"2018-12-06T05:29:47","modified_gmt":"2018-12-06T10:29:47","slug":"zilje-35-dolnji-krcmari-gornji-hajduki","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-35-dolnji-krcmari-gornji-hajduki\/","title":{"rendered":"Zilje 35 (Dolnji Kr\u010dmari\/Gornji Hajduki)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The Dolnji Kr\u010dmari family at Zilje 35 originated at the <a title=\"Gornji Kr\u010dmari\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-26-gornji-krcmari\/\">Gornji Kr\u010dmari<\/a> at <a title=\"Gornji Kr\u010dmari\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-26-gornji-krcmari\/\">Zilje 26<\/a>. Two brothers eventually lived here, one whose family continued to be known as (Dolnji) Kr\u010dmari, the other whose family was known as the Kokuljari (<em>kokulj<\/em> is the name of a particular species of bird, and is also the name of a weed that grows amongst wheat).<\/p>\n<p>The Dolnji Kr\u010dmari, according to oral tradition, were evicted from their house by the <a title=\"Hrastovkini-Gornji Hajduki\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-42-hrastovniki\/\">Hrastovkini<\/a> (descendents of the <a title=\"Dolnji Hajduki\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-25-dolnji-hajduki\/\">Hajduki<\/a>) of <a title=\"Hrastovkini-Gornji Hajduki\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-42-hrastovniki\/\">Zilje 42<\/a> ca. 1900. The Dolnji Kr\u010dmari moved to the <a title=\"Kosovkini-Dejankini\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/srednje-zilje\/zilje-33-kosovkini-dejankini\/\">Dejankini<\/a> (where they had close relatives) while some children moved to the USA, and the remaining family eventually moved to <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/damelj\/\">Damelj<\/a> where a son had married.<\/p>\n<p>The <a title=\"Hrastovkini-Gornji Hajduki\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-42-hrastovniki\/\">Hrastovkini<\/a>, or <a title=\"Hrastovkini-Gornji Hajduki\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-42-hrastovniki\/\">Gornji Hajduki<\/a> as they were known as during the 20th century, lived at this house until the 1960s when they moved to the USA. This ended the Hajduk lineage at this house.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>The oldest record we have found to date for a person from this house is for Jurij \u010cadoni\u010d (<a title=\"Gornji Kr\u010dmari\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-26-gornji-krcmari\/\">Kr\u010dmarov<\/a>). He married Helena Cveta\u0161 (<a title=\"Gornji Mlinari\/Cveta\u0161i\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/srednje-zilje\/zilje-16-gornji-mlinari-cvetasi\/\">Gornja Cveta\u0161ova<\/a>). Together, they had at least 6 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>1A. Katarina \u010cadoni\u010d b. 1829, m. 1851 to Jurij \u0160peli\u0107 (Johi 5).<\/p>\n<p>1B. Jurij \u010cadoni\u010d b. 1836, m. 1865 to Marija Cveta\u0161 (<a title=\"Kosovkini-Dejankini\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/srednje-zilje\/zilje-33-kosovkini-dejankini\/\">Kosovkina<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>1C. Marija \u010cadoni\u010d b. 1838, m. 1865 to Nikolaj Johovi\u0107 (Johi 8).<\/p>\n<p>1D. Nikolaj \u010cadoni\u010d b. 1840, m. 1865 to Helena Ivanovi\u010d (<a title=\"Dolnji Miheli\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-20-dolnji-miheli\/\">Dolnja Mihelova<\/a>) &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>1E. Johan \u010cadoni\u010d b. 1842, m. 1881 to Ana Jur\u0161ini\u010d (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/perudina\/the-people\/perudina-7-matasovi\/\">Mata\u0161ova<\/a> from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/perudina\/\">Perudina<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>1F. Helena \u010cadoni\u010d b. 1845, m. 1873 to Johan Jaketi\u010d (<a title=\"Peru\u0161i\u010di\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/srednje-zilje\/zilje-38-perusici\/\">Peru\u0161i\u010dev<\/a>) &#8212; they lived at <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/gornje-zilje\/central-gornje-zilje\/zilje-7-perusici-gornji-lugari\/\">Zilje 7<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Jurij \u010cadoni\u010d m. 1847 to his second wife Ana Tomec (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/podklanec\/the-people\/gornji-podklanec\/podklanec-19\/\">Podklanec 19<\/a>). Together they had 4 children:<\/p>\n<p>1G. Jo\u017ee \u010cadoni\u010d b. 1850, m. 1879 to Franca \u0160telzig (Vinica 33).<\/p>\n<p>1H. Miha \u010cadoni\u010d b. 1852. At this time, it is unknown what happened to him afterwards.<\/p>\n<p>1I. Matija \u010cadoni\u010d b. 1855. At this time, it is unknown what happened to him afterwards.<\/p>\n<p>1J. Toma\u017e \u010cadoni\u010d b. 1862. At this time, it is unknown what happened to him afterwards.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Matija \u010cadoni\u010d (<a title=\"Gornji Kr\u010dmari\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-26-gornji-krcmari\/\">Kr\u010dmarov<\/a>) m. 1848 to Barbara Krotec (Mikanova from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/kroci\/\">Kroci<\/a>). At that point, they moved in with the family of Jurij \u010cadoni\u010d and were known as the Kokuljari.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Matija \u010cadoni\u010d (<a title=\"Gornji Kr\u010dmari\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-26-gornji-krcmari\/\">Kr\u010dmarov<\/a>) and his wife Barbara Krotec had 2 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>1K. Nikolaj \u010cadoni\u010d b. 1850, died at the age of 59 in Karlovac. At this time, it is unknown if he was ever married or had children.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Nikolaj \u010cadoni\u010d [1D] and his wife Helena Ivanovi\u010d had 2 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>2A. Jurij \u010cadoni\u010d b. 1870. At this time, it is unknown what happened to him afterwards.<\/p>\n<p>2B. Jo\u017ee \u010cadoni\u010d b. 1873. At this time, it is unknown what happened to him afterwards.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Nikolaj \u010cadoni\u010d [1D] m. 1876 to his second wife Katarina \u010cadoni\u010d (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/pavlini\/the-people\/pavlini-5-pavlinski\/\">Pavlinska<\/a> from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/pavlini\/\">Pavlini<\/a>). Together they had 6 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>2C. Valentin \u010cadoni\u010d b. 1891, m. 1914 to Katarina \u017dagar (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/damelj\/the-people\/damelj-1-parganovi\/\">Parganova<\/a> from<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/damelj\/\"> Damelj<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>In about 1900, Nikolaj \u010cadoni\u010d [1D] and his family were evicted from their house by the <a title=\"Hrastovkini-Gornji Hajduki\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-42-hrastovniki\/\">Hrastovkini<\/a>. For some years they lived at the <a title=\"Kosovkini-Dejankini\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/srednje-zilje\/zilje-33-kosovkini-dejankini\/\">Kosovkini<\/a> with Nikolaj&#8217;s brother Jurij \u010cadoni\u010d [1B]. They eventually moved to <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/damelj\/\">Damelj<\/a> and lived with their son Valentin [2C]. This was the end of the lineage of Kr\u010dmari at Zilje 35.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Peter \u010cemas (<a title=\"Hrastovkini-Gornji Hajduki\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-42-hrastovniki\/\">Hrastovkin<\/a>) and his wife Magdalena Krotec (Preloka 32) had 9 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>2D. Barbara \u010cemas b. 1900 in <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-42-hrastovniki\/\">Zilje 42<\/a>, m. 1921 to Nikolaj Moravec (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/gornje-zilje\/mureticevo-selo\/zilje-12-moravci\/\">Morav\u010dev<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>2E. Franc Pavel \u010cemas b. 1902 in <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-42-hrastovniki\/\">Zilje 42<\/a>, m. 1931 to Ana Moravec (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/podklanec\/the-people\/gornji-podklanec\/podklanec-21-gornji-moravci-dolnji-moravci\/\">Dolnja Morav\u010deva<\/a> from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/podklanec\/\">Podklanec<\/a>) &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>2F. Nikolaj \u010cemas b. 1908, m. 1933 to Marija Jeseh (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/ucakovci\/the-people\/ucakovci-22-cveticevi-jesihovi\/\">Jesihova<\/a> from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/ucakovci\/\">U\u010dakovci<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>2G. Ana \u010cemas b. 1913, m. 1932 to Janko Radovi\u010d (Sravni from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/brdo\/\">Preloka<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>2H. Peter \u010cemas b. 1916, m. 1947 to Ana \u0160egina (Milani 4).<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Franc Pavel \u010cemas [2E] and his wife Ana Moravec had 3 children.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Dolnji Kr\u010dmari family at Zilje 35 originated at the Gornji Kr\u010dmari at Zilje 26. Two brothers eventually lived here, one whose family continued to be known as (Dolnji) Kr\u010dmari, [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"parent":44,"menu_order":35,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_bbp_topic_count":0,"_bbp_reply_count":0,"_bbp_total_topic_count":0,"_bbp_total_reply_count":0,"_bbp_voice_count":0,"_bbp_anonymous_reply_count":0,"_bbp_topic_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_reply_count_hidden":0,"_bbp_forum_subforum_count":0,"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-221","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/221","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=221"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/221\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3826,"href":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/221\/revisions\/3826"}],"up":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/44"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=221"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}