{"id":156,"date":"2012-11-07T07:04:25","date_gmt":"2012-11-07T07:04:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/blogs\/history\/?page_id=156"},"modified":"2018-08-20T04:11:30","modified_gmt":"2018-08-20T09:11:30","slug":"zilje-11-dolnji-vranesici-izbrdovi","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/gornje-zilje\/mureticevo-selo\/zilje-11-dolnji-vranesici-izbrdovi\/","title":{"rendered":"Zilje 11 (Dolnji Vrane\u0161i\u010di\/Izbrdovi)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In the 1879 <em>status animarum<\/em>, the households at <a title=\"Gornji Vrane\u0161i\u010di-Matki\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/gornje-zilje\/mureticevo-selo\/zilje-10-gornji-vranesici-matki\/\">Zilje 10<\/a> and Zilje 11 were recorded as the <a title=\"Gornji Vrane\u0161i\u010di-Matki\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/gornje-zilje\/mureticevo-selo\/zilje-10-gornji-vranesici-matki\/\">Gornji<\/a> and Dolnji Vrane\u0161i\u010di, reflecting the surname of both families. There is a record of a marriage in 1774 between a Jelka Mureti\u010d from <a title=\"Zilje\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/\">Zilje<\/a> and a Matija Vrane\u0161i\u010d from <a title=\"Podklanec\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/podklanec\/\">Podklanec<\/a>, and while we have no direct evidence to link this marriage to the lineages of families with the Vrane\u0161i\u010d surname, it would explain the end of the Mureti\u010d surname in <a title=\"Zilje\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/\">Zilje<\/a>. The household at Zilje 11 continued with the Vrane\u0161i\u010d surname until the early 1900s when the <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/srednje-zilje\/zilje-55-stari-izbrdovi\/\">Izbrdovi<\/a> moved into the house from <a title=\"Izbrdovi\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/srednje-zilje\/zilje-55-stari-izbrdovi\/\">Zilje 55<\/a>.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>The oldest record we have found to date for a person from this house is for Jurij Vrane\u0161i\u010d. He married Barbara. Together, they had at least 2 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>1A. Matija Vrane\u0161i\u010d b. ca. 1769, m. 1799 to Doroteja \u010cemas &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>1B. Jurij Vrane\u0161i\u010d b. 1775. At this time, it is unknown what happened to him afterwards.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Matija Vrane\u0161i\u010d [1A] and his wife Doroteja \u010cemas had at least 4 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>2A. Peter Vrane\u0161i\u010d b. 1802, m. 1818 to Ana Cveta\u0161 (<a title=\"Gornji Mlinari\/Cveta\u0161i\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/srednje-zilje\/zilje-16-gornji-mlinari-cvetasi\/\">Gornja Mlinarova<\/a>) &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>2B. Marija Vrane\u0161i\u010d b. 1809, m. 1830 to Jurij \u017dalec (<a title=\"Brdari\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/gornje-zilje\/mureticevo-selo\/zilje-14-meznari-brdari\/\">Brdarov<\/a>).<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Peter Vrane\u0161i\u010d [2A] and his wife Ana Cveta\u0161 did not have any children.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Peter Vrane\u0161i\u010d [2A] m. 1830 to his second wife Ana Cveta\u0161 (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/srednje-zilje\/zilje-17-cvetasi\/\">Cveta\u0161ova<\/a>). Together they had 4 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>3A. Matija Vrane\u0161i\u010d b. 1838, m. 1863 to Marija Male\u0161i\u010d (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/podklanec\/the-people\/gornji-podklanec\/podklanec-22-capori\/\">\u010caporova<\/a> from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/podklanec\/\">Podklanec<\/a>)<sup>1<\/sup> &#8212; they lived at <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/gornje-zilje\/mureticevo-selo\/zilje-10-gornji-vranesici-matki\/\">Zilje 10<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>3B. Ana Vrane\u0161i\u010d b. 1839, m. 1863 to Matija Male\u0161i\u010d (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/podklanec\/the-people\/gornji-podklanec\/podklanec-22-capori\/\">\u010caporov<\/a> from <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/podklanec\/\">Podklanec<\/a>)<sup>1<\/sup>.<\/p>\n<p>3C. Peter Vrane\u0161i\u010d b. 1842, m. 1868 to Katarina \u010cemas (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/podklanec\/the-people\/dolnji-podklanec\/podklanec-12-galetici\/\">Galeti\u010deva<\/a> from <a title=\"Podklanec\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/vinica\/podklanec\/\">Podklanec<\/a>) &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>3D. Marija Vrane\u0161i\u010d b. 1845, m. 1864 to Johan \u010cadoni\u010d (<a title=\"Gornji Stegneti\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/gornje-zilje\/gorenjci\/zilje-3-gornji-stegneti\/\">Stegne\u010d<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p><sup>1. <em>Matija and Marija Male\u0161i\u010d :weresiblings:<\/em><\/sup><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Peter Vrane\u0161i\u010d [3C] and his wife Katarina \u010cemas had 11 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>4A. Katarina \u010cemas b. 1865, m. 1889 to Nikolaj \u017dalec (<a title=\"\u017dalci\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/gornje-zilje\/mureticevo-selo\/zilje-13-zalci\/\">\u017dal\u010dev<\/a>) &#8212; they lived at <a title=\"Izbrdovi\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/srednje-zilje\/zilje-55-stari-izbrdovi\/\">Zilje 55<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>4B. Johan Vrane\u0161i\u010d b. 1872, died at the age of 34 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. At this time, it is unknown if he was ever married or had children.<\/p>\n<p>4C. Jurij Vrane\u0161i\u010d b. 1875. At this time, it is unknown what happened to him afterwards.<\/p>\n<p>4D. Barbara Vrane\u0161i\u010d b. 1882, m. ca. 1907 in Pittsburgh to Jo\u017ee Bahori\u010d (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/adlesici\/\">Adle\u0161i\u010di<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>4E. Marija Vrane\u0161i\u010d b. 1886, m. 1909 to Peter Kapele (Bedenj 11) &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Nikolaj \u017dalec and his wife Katarina \u010cemas [4A] had 3 children:<\/p>\n<p>5A. Ana \u017dalec b. 1890 in <a title=\"\u017dalci\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/gornje-zilje\/mureticevo-selo\/zilje-13-zalci\/\">Zilje 13<\/a>, m. 1913 to Janko \u010cadoni\u010d (<a title=\"Gornji Kr\u010dmari\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-26-gornji-krcmari\/\">Kr\u010dmarov<\/a>) &#8212; they lived at <a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/srednje-zilje\/zilje-55-stari-izbrdovi\/\">Zilje 55<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>5B. Nikolaj \u017dalec b. 1892 in <a title=\"Izklan\u010devi\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/gornje-zilje\/central-gornje-zilje\/zilje-36-izklancevi\/\">Zilje 36<\/a>, died at the age of 28 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. At this time, it is unknown if he was ever married or had children.<\/p>\n<p>5C. Franc \u017dalec b. 1895, died at the age of 21. At this time, it is unknown if he was ever married or had children.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Nikolaj \u017dalec and Katarina \u010cemas [4A] then built the house west of the church of St. Anthony, the <a title=\"Izbrdovi\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/srednje-zilje\/zilje-55-stari-izbrdovi\/\">Stara Izbrdova<\/a> at <a title=\"Izbrdovi\" href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/srednje-zilje\/zilje-55-stari-izbrdovi\/\">Zilje 55<\/a>, in 1902. The family moved there, and they had 2 more children:<\/p>\n<p>5D. Johan \u017dalec b. 1897, m. 1920 to Barbara Jaketi\u010d (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/srednje-zilje\/zilje-38-perusici\/\">Peru\u0161i\u010deva<\/a>) &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>5E. Jurij \u017dalec b. 1902, m. Barbara Balkovec (<a href=\"http:\/\/gfamilytree.com\/history\/the-places-we-come-from\/bela-krajina-white-carniola\/crnomelj\/preloka\/zilje\/the-people\/dolnje-zilje\/zilje-24-vuki\/\">Vukova<\/a>) &#8212; they remained at this house.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Jo\u017ee Bahori\u010d and his wife Barbara Vrane\u0161i\u010d [4D] had 8 children, including:<\/p>\n<p>5F. Angela Bahorich b. ca. 1908<\/p>\n<p>5G. Joseph P Bahorich b. 1910, m. ca. 1932 to Helen<\/p>\n<p>5H. Mary Bahorich b. ca. 1912<\/p>\n<p>5I. Frank Bahorich b. ca. 1914<\/p>\n<p>5J. John A Bahorich b. 1915, m. 1940 to Margaret Delach in Pittsburgh<\/p>\n<p>5K. Edward N Bahorich b. ca. 1917<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Peter Kapele and his wife Marija Vrane\u0161i\u010d [4E] did not have any children.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the 1879 status animarum, the households at Zilje 10 and Zilje 11 were recorded as the Gornji and Dolnji Vrane\u0161i\u010di, reflecting the surname of both families. 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